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scott
3/17/2005 4:32:00 PM
I am trying to get more hp out of my 2001 tiburon. If anyone knows of anything becides a air filter, I would much appreciate it.

I was looking into turbo, and need some help please respond.
benji
3/22/2005 9:39:21 PM
i'm new to the hyundai, but was also new to the first impala's
so let's see what can be found
Patrick
3/23/2005 12:07:18 PM
what motor for you have in your tib scott?
scott
3/23/2005 10:07:37 PM
i have 2.0 dohc!
Patrick
3/24/2005 2:01:00 PM
ok..i am not certain, but i believe that Ripp Mods makes a supercharger kit for that car...i know that they do make superchargers for tibs, not sure if they are for your engine. they make an amazing product from what ive seen, and offer great tech support.

www.rippmods.com
scott
3/26/2005 12:08:09 AM
thanks for the help keep it coming
pure performance
6/6/2005 2:10:46 AM
You could buil a turbo kit your self for under $2000 Ive done it and so has another person I know and we both went different ways about doing it
Trakka
6/16/2005 7:39:07 AM
Hi,

Go the supercharger route. You get boost from idle and it will feel like you have a 3 litre under the bonnet.

Much better result. Torque is available all the way from idle and will not taper off up in the rev range.

A turbo will take time to spool up. Your engine probably lacks low down torque and may not be as well served by the turbo.

The supercharger will help shift all that weight!

Hoping this helps.

Cheers,

Andrew.
pure performance
6/16/2005 4:30:42 PM
that is your opinion and this is mine. Ive built a couple hyundai turbo kits for people and they love it! Aturbo is far more efficient than a supercharger, and does not put as much stress on your motor. A supercharger runs from a belt that is constantly loading your engine and stressing it and it actually uses hp to make more, where as a turbo is not causing a load especially at idle. And as far as the low end torque that is what a launch is all about, you just boost the turbo off the line and you have the same effect at low end. and as far as the it feels like a 3 litre under the hood whoopdy MY GSX feels like there is a rocket in the back I have built many turbo cars and they are far superior to a supercharger, a super charger can only make about 80% max efficency where a turboif it is set up properly can go well over a 100% Also with the turbo you can drive normally and not boost the crap out of your engine and load it all up all the time and you can controll your own boost with a boost controller rather than having to find different pulleys and such.
thanks TONY
Patrick
6/16/2005 6:28:45 PM
what kind of performance numbers do you cars put down?
pure performance
6/16/2005 10:24:30 PM
WE have no numbers or time slips yet but dony worry they're coming soon we have setup a dyno day for mid june, and we will also be heading to the track for some quarter mile runs and I will postthem for everybody to look at. The Tiburon has a custom stainless manifold from Essential speed, 14b turbo from a 1st gen talon@ 7 psi of boost, custom aluminum intercooler piping made at my shop, turbo xs boost controller, 1st gen talon intercooler slightly modified, voltage clamp from Split second, Apexi SAFC and DSM 450 injectors, also air fuel and boost gauge, We cant wait to dyno it to see what kind of numbers it lays down. All I know is that its a hell of a lot faster than it was. I drive a 96 Eclipse GSX that runs low 11 second passes all day, and when my buddy first got the car he came over and gave me a ride and the first thing I said was lets boost it now 3 years of convincing him it is done, and he loves it but ill let everybody know when we dyno it. Ill also try to get some pics up soon
Tony
Trakka
6/19/2005 6:38:23 AM
Hi "pure performance",

I've no doubt that a turbo is great for the sort of stuff you do, that is, throwing the car down a short straight track at irregular intervals but for general day-to-day driveability and tractability, as well as being able to provide decent squirt when required, particularly in an urban environ such as here in Sydney, a supercharger would do quite nicely .

Apologies to Scott for not asking what he wants.

Regarding your stated downsides to supercharging, companies like CAPA here in Australia have a very good handle on what's required to properly setup a supercharger conversion for the most popular vehicles like Excel/Accent and Lantra/Elantra. They manage to do so without invoking any of the "bogies" you alluded to. Your opinion regarding superiority is biased by your predeliction for drag racing. WHOOPDY!(lol)

CAPA can provide a kit to suit the Accent which allows you to lay down times equal to or better than the V8 performance sedans marketed here in OZ. The ultimate Q ship on standard tyres, eh!

I think I may represent a group of people who can't or don't want to compromise the family vehicle yet still want good value, unobtrusive performance. My own car has mild work that doesn't detract from its comfort at all and can provide good performance and secure handling on out of town trips. I also know its limitations which is more than can be said for some of the hop heads who think that a turbo car improves their driving skills. I've met plenty of WRX owners on the road but very few WRX drivers. They're good in a straight line, but throw in some corners and they're lost. Most resort to the "side street turnoff" after you drive round them (inside or out) in a Lantra (LOL).

Time slips and dyno figures are fine, if thats your thing, but dynos only show potential and drag strips have no corners.

Back to you Scott. What sort of result are you looking for?

Cheers,

Andrew



pure performance
6/19/2005 11:20:03 AM
I dont think you understood what I was talking about when I said that turbos are and always will be l more efficient than a supercharger. And also my 11 second car also gets my kids to school and me to work everyday with no problems,and all my options like A/C, power windowsand locks and full leather,and I can guaranty that My car handles excelant on more than just straight lines, see I live in an area known as the kettle moraine, it is known for all it hills and twists and turns of the roads and my gsx stays glued to the road tar,
There is no doubt in my mind that companies like capa have these kits worked out ,but what I was saying is that a turbo kit can be built for less money and still be every bit as dependable as a supercharger without compromising your family ride.
I do agree with what you have to say about people and their WRX's, or any vehicle for that matter that because I have met far too many people that do have a nice ride with AWD or thousands stuck into their steering and suspension and think that they are gods gift to the road and the next thing they know they are gods gift to the tree on the side of the road. Their are auto owners. enthusiasts, and then a small percentage of people who can actually drive, no doubt about that at all.
I am also a member of the SCCA and do dabble a little in road racing and am prety good at it not the best just good and constantly improving. no I dont take my gsx to the road coures due to a big turbo with too much lag for the course. I have a 99 saturn sc2 which see's the road courses.
Trakka
6/20/2005 4:42:46 AM
Hi again,

Yes I well understand about the efficiency issue. That's not the whole issue as I'm sure you'll agree.

I refer to your statement at the end of your post, specifically,..."no I dont take my gsx to the road coures due to a big turbo with too much lag..."(sic). That's my point. The lag is too much of an issue for everyday use.

I don't know how sparsely populated your area is, but good for you if you can use the turbo to its potential and utilise the full efficiency!

I still maintain that for daily driving ease in areas like Sydney, the supercharger is a very viable option. Torque is the deal after all, and a big linear delivery that keeps on increasing is ideal. No power rush, minimal noise and seamless grunt.

Evidence the change in power delivery to the wheels of a twin cam Excel(Accent) from 47kw to 101kw using a 10 psi boost supercharger. Bigger injectors, stock cams, 2.25 exhaust and headers. Nothing else. Your price approx.US$3500. Easy enough to install yourself. The limiter cuts in before the power tapers off and the torque is more than doubled at its peak.

Good for 14.3 e.t.'s with 95mph trap speed.

Thoughts?

Cheers,

Andrew.
pure performance
6/20/2005 4:00:26 PM
Yes my turbo does have mor lag but it is a GT35r on an eclipse but the 2 people I knowwho have turbo hyundais have virtually no turbo lagOne friend has a t25 from a second gen talon and as soon as he hits the gas the boost starts building fast and make more than plenty low end torque this car easily smoke tires from a stop light, he thinks it might build the boost a little to fast.
Where as my other buddy has a first gen 14b talon turbo on his hyundai and the turbo spools up slightly slower than the t25 which make it more ideal for him and he also make good low end torque with very little lag at all,
So as you can see turbos can be just as rerliable as a supercharger with good low end torque, its all on what size turbo you want to run, and what you are looking to do with the car as far as performance , along with reliability,and any other factors you want to include.
Their are hundreds if not thousands of different turbos for any kind of situation you might have and their is bound to be one for any application out their.
mydartswinger
6/21/2005 7:51:16 PM
You can also look on Evofusion USA and Kspec. They have parts for most Hyundais, including the Accent and Elantra. Tibbys are fairly easy to find parts for.
mydartswinger
6/21/2005 8:02:10 PM
Also look at Import Shark. They are largely a Tibby site.
pure performance
6/22/2005 11:19:18 PM
thanks mydartswinger the other hyundai with the t26 is a elantra hatch
scott
8/27/2005 11:42:50 AM
Alright, I have been reading all of your posts. Both of you guys make a good point. I am looking for more power from low to high rpm. I have been contimplating selling my tib and buying a EVO. I really like turbo cars. My only problem is the ovious one. A warrenty. I would love to through a turbo in my tib and run someware between 7-9 psi. I think that will do just fine. Right know i have a AEM cai and a 1.8 cam. I like the differance but i need more. My main problem is i am a driver i love to drive and i am very good at it. All my friends have WRX, acura type R, RSX, wrx sti, and i drive there car way better then they can. I do not know what to do hopefully someone can help
Patrick
8/29/2005 2:27:33 PM
well, comparing an Evo to a tibby, youre talking about two very very different cars...
scott
8/31/2005 10:56:48 AM
I know this, I just wanted to keep my tib for alittle longer. I am going to get a evo, but the question is when. I was hopeing to pump up the tib allitle first then sell it. Any thoughts
poacher
10/22/2005 8:23:55 PM
Get a turbo, Its fun to feel it kick you in the ass when it spools up. It makes great sound, and its fun to let the turbo sigh when someone is ratting on your ride. A turbo certainly adds a respect level as well as the obvious power gains.
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12/6/2005 4:40:01 PM
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bass_killz
2/20/2006 8:22:51 PM
You may also want to try http://hyundaiperformance.com/ they have a nice turbo kit
alex
3/9/2007 4:09:06 PM
Hey, this is for scott.  I have been considering the same thing a turbo or supercharger.  I hang with alot of tuners most own subies but, five of them have tibs with turbos.  The main problem with running a turbo we have found is the compression ratio.  In order to get the max out of your turbo you will have to by a compression plate and they rund between $300 and $400.  We ran the math and basic maps and found that if you put on the compression plate and use a first gen turbo of an eclipse or event the hot side down turbo to the evo, using some misc. parts from forums and such.  You will only spend around $2,000 and load almost 150 hp and do to the compression plate will not have the lag in the low end.  Also, because you will using used or low end parts to save money, you leave yourself plenty of room to build.  This design should allow you to run between 12 and 16lbs. of boost without any real stress on the engine.  Hope this helps.  I am planning on installing this set up in a couple of weeks, just looking for someone local to do the pipes and manifold.  
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