05 with P0011
 

I have a 2005 Elantra. It overheated and the oil looked gunky when I changed it out, the thermostat was bad. The engine runs fine and starts fine. But the check engine light is on and I can not get the code P0011 to clear. I had several codes and got them all to clear but not the P0011. It has 77k miles, the timing belt was changed, the cam position sensor has been replaced, the OCV has been replaced, the engine has been flushed twice. But it keeps saying the intake cam is over advanced. I saw on another thread there is an OCV filter. Do you clean or replace it? I have too get it to pass inspection. It is really making me mad because it runs fine.

Who changed the timing belt? Are you sure they did it correctly? Maybe the intake cam was off when the belt was replaced. That's where I'd check first.

I do all my own work. I checked four times to make sure everything was lined up when I replaced the belt. I also tried adjusting the belt to make sure. But when I turned the cam back the engine just lost power so I put it back.

Did the code start right after the timing belt and cam position sensor change? Maybe you missed something. It happens.

I already had the check engine light on but after the engine overheated is the first time I saw the P0011. The oil got really dark and thick. It was after that that I changed the belt. The oil looked so bad that I pulled the valve cover and cleaned it. I was told a restriction in oil flow would cause the code.

I guess anyting is possible. Changing the OCV filter couldn't hurt.

The engine cooled off enough to work on. I only found out that there even was an OCV filter on here. I pulled the OCV filter and it was completelty clogged. I sprayed cleaner and nothing even got through the filter. I have it soaking in cleaner right now.

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This is the oil control valve filter. It is a wire mesh filter attached inside to a bolt. just look for the bolt hidden behind the radiator hoses. It can be easily cleaned if you know it is there. If it gets clogged it restricts the oil flow and advances the intake cam. It does not cost anything to clean it first. Then worry about other things. I did it last and spent a whole lot of money on things that I most likely did not need. It is not on any maintenance schedule but I am getting a second one so I can change it out when I change the oil. Then I can clean it and have for the next oil change. This seems like the Hyundai engineers way sticking to the people that do not go to the dealer for service. I will be sending letters to Hyundai and my state representative about the inspection issue. I will also be checking to see if this is a fed issue. It really makes me mad that something so simple is hidden.:mad:

It's not on the maintenance schedule because it doesn't require service. If you keep you engine oil clean you won't have a problem. It's not "Hyundai engineers" fault that YOU allowed the engine oil to get dirty and get "gunky".

It really makes me mad that people like to blame everybody but themselves for not maintaining their car properly. Especially when they think they know more than the factory trained mechanics.

Over heating caused the oil to get gunky. Then flushing the engine as recomended by a factory trained mechanic pushed what was left after an oil change into a hidden filter and clogged it. I do not care what the cause was. The fix was never available to me. Even after spending over $500 at the dealer it was not fixed. So it was factory trained mechanics that did not fix it and left it to me. I could not get my state inspection because of the check engine light. Only because I saw it in the picture here did I know it was there. I knew there was an oil restriction but could not find it. The dealer was trying to get me to pay for a new oil pump next. So was it dishonest mechanics or a lack of training. I am not bashing the mechanics they all seemed like really good guys. I would bet they are following the tech instructions from Hyundai. It is Hyundai's design and not telling the mechanics that is wrong. There should be something like "when you change out the oil control valve clean the OCV filter."

Once again the mechanics were very nice and helpful. The service guys were very helpful. I do not for one minute think they were trying to take advantage. But they had a memo that said if a car came in with P0011 make sure there was 5W-20 oil and not 10W-30 and if the oil filter was not a Hyundai filter to change it to the hyundai filter. But no memo that said pull the OCV filter and check it? I would say the people making the teck manuels and sending the memo's out are the ones to blame. So make sure you know who I am bashing.

Overheating for a short period of time does not cause sludge/gunk in the oil. That come from YEARS of neglect and/or months of overheating.

Also, if you go to HMAservice.com and you will see that it DOES tell you to check the OCV. The mechanic didn't do his job very well. That is his fault, not Hyundais.

From HMAservice.com:

>ELANTRA(XD) > 2005 > ENGINE > Engine Control > Fuel System > Troubleshooting > P0011 > Component Inspection

COMPONENT INSPECTION
INTAKE VALVE CONTROL SOLENOID OPERATION CHECK
[With Scan Tool]
1.Ignition "ON" & Engine "OFF"
2.Install scantool and select "CVVT VALVE" on the Actuation Test mode
3.Activates "CVVT VALVE" by pressing "STRT(F1)" key(should hear a faint click from intake valve control solenoid)
4.Repeat this procedure 4 or 5 times to ensure intake valve control solenoid reliability

[Without Scan Tool]
1.Ignition "OFF".
2.Remove the intake valve control solenoid from the engine.
3.Visually check the Spool Column of intake valve control solenoid for contamination.
4.Connect 12V and a ground to 2 and 1 of the solenoid(Component side). Verify that spool column move to left as shown in the figure.
5.Disconnect 12V and verify that spool column move to original condition.
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6.Has a problem been found?
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▶ Repair or replace as necessary and go to "Verification of Vehicle Repair" procedure
http://www.hmaservice.com/data/PASSE...GES-ENG/no.gif
▶ Go to next step as below

CHECK INTAKE VALVE CONTROL SOLENOID RESISTANCE
1.Ignition "OFF".
2.Disconnect intake valve control solenoid connector.
3.Measure resistance between terminals 1 and 2 of the intake valve control solenoid connector.(Component side)
Specification
Injector
Normal Parameter At 20°C (68°F)
Coil Resistance
6.7 ~ 7.9Ω
Insulation Resistance
Above 50MΩ

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4.Is resistance within the specification?
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▶ Go to next step as below
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▶ Replace the intake valve control solenoid and go to "Verification of Vehicle Repair" procedure

CHECK THE SUSPECTED AREA
1.Check the following items
A.Intake valve control solenoid filter for sticking or contamination
B.Engine oil and it’s level
C.Engine oil filter
2.Is there any problem?
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▶ Repair or replace the intake valve control solenoid and go to "Verification of Vehicle Repair" procedure
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▶ Go to "Terminal and Connector Inspection" procedure



Also see this TSB:
http://www.novaresource.org/Tucson/09-em-002.pdf

My wife had complained the a/c was turning off for a few weeks. I was driving it over to check the a/c when it overheated. The thermostat had to be replaced. After that the a/c worked fine. I am sure it had beed running hot. When I was working on it after it overheated I found the oil gunked up.

I do not see the oil control valve filter on the list of things to check. It does not take anything but a wrench to take it out and your eye to look at it. If you do not want to clean it it is only $10.40 plus sales tax. But I cleaned the old one with brake cleaner and hot water. Then the code cleared. The OCV or CVVT was not working. I would think that something so simple should be on the list to check.

I also do not see why my state will not let my car pass inspection because of the check engine light. If the car runs fine and the emissions are in line then it should pass. It seems like a great way to force people to pay to fix a car that is not broke. The hyundai seems like a good car. It is fairly simple. But when I told the mechanic about the OCV filter he did not know it was there. I showed it to him so now he does.

Sorry but if the CEL is on, something IS wrong. If nothing was wrong, the CEL wouldn't be on and it would have passed.

You should want fix your car if the CEL is on. Your state shouldn't have to force you to do it. Maybe that's why you let it overheat for so long. If you had maintained your car better, you would have seen the overheating condition sooner and not have cooked your oil and clogged the OCV. Like I said before:

I don't know if it's my computer, but I can't see the images when I click on them. I am a member of another forum and don't have an issue seeing photos. Anyway, I thought I would post a photo in case someone in the future looks up this trouble code (P0011) and wants to know where the OCV filter is. Here it is in this photo (the red arrow is pointing to the 14 mm bolt head):

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Thanks to NovaResource who personally described to me where I could find this. :)

Ocv
Having the same problem

Change the oil first and replace the OCV filter and clear the code with a scanner. See the photo in post #14. Get a 14mm socket and remove that bolt head. There will be a plastic and mesh screen cone-shaped filter attached to the bolt. Pull it off and pop a new one on there and reinsert the bolt with the new filter. It's torqued to 30-37 ft. lbs. The filter screen only costs $8-$11. You can also try cleaning it with brake cleaner. Get the straw for the brake cleaner to force spray the cleaner through the screen to clean it out. I would just replace it.

In the diagram below, "A" points to the bolt head. The yellow arrow points to the cone-shaped screen filter. Instructions say to use a new gasket/washer on the bolt and to keep the OCV filter clean.

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For others reading this thread, I highly recommend you use a HYUNDAI brand thermostat for the cooling system. Thermostats are one of those car parts that just need the OE part. This is regardless of make (Hyundai, Mazda, Ford, Toyota, GM, VW, etc.). Make sure to use a Phosphated HOAT coolant in the system and never introduce tap water into the system, only distilled or deionized water. Use a Hyundai radiator cap, not an aftermarket cap. Keep the cooling system maintained and do regular oil/filter changes to avoid OCV problems.