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mjb457 03-14-2011 06:23 AM

Thinking of Buying??
 
Ok I found a used 2009 Touring for $15,900K with only 4,600 miles..is it a good car & good deal..I currently have an '03 PT Cruiser that has been very good to me,,& still runs & rides great but has 90k miles & is do for some major servicing.(timing belt,tune-up-trans service(total about $1600).(any thoughts?)(--like the hatchback & size of the Hyundai.Touring but unsure on what to expect?.( I own a 2008 Accent which has been good so far but only 28k miles,,)..all opinions welcome.thanks mjb:cool::confused:

rotwein 03-14-2011 08:56 AM

If you can afford it, why not buy a new one and get the longer warranty?

mjb457 03-14-2011 09:41 AM

thinking of buying responce
 
good thought,,, not that much more may entertain that,,how is Touring overall?:cool:

blh7068 03-14-2011 01:49 PM

4,600 miles hardly taps the warranty. I wouldnt use that as a justification for buying a new one. A 2009 model is essentially an 2011 SE w/out leather...Im sure you could work that 15,900 down some, too. The used imo seems like a much better value.

Let me disclaim right off the bat that my 09 touring is a total POS from an assembly perspective Otherwise, Ill try to be as unbiased as possible.

The interior space is tough to beat. Its a well laid out vehicle with plenty of space that a family of four can take on vacation. It handles well. Mileage is as advertised. Sound system is above average.

Things I caveat- Electric steering may take a bit getting used to. Engine/ cabin noise and vibration are quite excessive, imo. I also dont like that the accessories slow down/dim too much at base idle.

mjb457 03-14-2011 02:41 PM

Worth Buying ? Wow
 
2 different opinions... I usually keep for a bit but want quality---my Accent is fine but was cheap to buy so.. would you buy a Touring Elantra again?:confused:

Omnitech 03-14-2011 05:28 PM

Go for the new one, current incentives are 3.9% financing and $500 rebate. My 2011 is a lot of fun to drive, it's the GLS version (better seats) w/popular options package. Had it since January with over 2500 miles on it, lots of room, comfortable seats. No negative comments right now, but went through the coldest winter in years with no squeaks or rattles. Gas mileage is averaging around 26.5 all around right now. I have no issues with the electric steering, feels like the regular hydraulic steering to me, but if you test drive, go for about 10 miles and run it through the ringer.

mjb457 03-14-2011 10:23 PM

thinking of buying
 
automatic or stick--daily driver..??:cool:

Griff 03-15-2011 12:25 AM

I,m new to this forum but wanted to put my two cents in. I bought a 2011 Touring SE for my wife about a month ago and I liked it so well I bought another a week later. Her's was new with just a few miles on it. Mine is GLS model and was a dealer service vehicle (basically a dealer loaner car) with 2600 miles on it. Got a heck of a deal on it with full warranty. They drive great, lots of room, look good, great warranty, fun to drive. We wanted a wagon style car and checked out other makes of cars but were sold on the Touring after driving it. Both are automatics and we both have about 20 mile commutes to work through the week. We are getting a little over 26 mpg. Alot of car for the money. We really like them.

blh7068 03-15-2011 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by mjb457 (Post 36216)
2 different opinions... I usually keep for a bit but want quality---my Accent is fine but was cheap to buy so.. would you buy a Touring Elantra again?:confused:

I highly doubt it. Its not just the dissatisfaction with the vehicle- but Im not overly impressed with the way Hyundai has handled my concerns.

If you do go new- I do not recommend the SE- because youre not getting a "better" car, i.e. an improved engine/tranny. Just not worth the money imo. Thats why I say the 09 would be a good buy with so few miles- its essentially a 2011 SE- sans leather. Same powertrain, too.

GL with your decision. Let us know what you buy! Mines an automatic, btw

Griff 03-15-2011 09:37 AM

Since I've only had my vehicles a month I don't have any experience with Hyundai handling any concerns. I can say my local dealer has treated me well. As I mentioned earlier, my second 2011 Touring was a dealer loaner with 2600 miles on it and with a 2001 Honda CRV (it needed some work and tires) trade-in and a $500 rebate I got the Touring for $12,500. My wife's Touring is a SE and has all the bells and whistles but the dealer knocked off a little over $3000 off the sticker. I did buy the extended warranty on both cars which I feel is worth the cost.

gjz30075 03-15-2011 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 36235)
but the dealer knocked off a little over $3000 off the sticker.

This is good to know. I haven't bought yet but the few dealers I've been to have been pretty stingy with their discounts, in casual conversation. I suppose when I find the right car, and the talk gets serious, maybe they can do better.

mjb457 03-15-2011 07:17 PM

Still figuring it out.... I would luv to get a great CAR for less than 15K that is what caught my attention on the 09 but you guys are saying seats etc better in the 11?

Griff 03-16-2011 12:18 AM

Don't know about the '09 model but my '11 models seats are pretty comfy. My SE has heated leather and my GLS just has the material covered seats and both are comfortable on long drives. I've done 2 1/2 hour trips. The SE has a lumbar support adjust which is nice. My GLS does not. I've had back surgery in the past and the seats of both cars are easy on my back.
Good luck on your on your quest for that great car.

blh7068 03-16-2011 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by mjb457 (Post 36243)
Still figuring it out.... I would luv to get a great CAR for less than 15K that is what caught my attention on the 09 but you guys are saying seats etc better in the 11?

I dont know if theyre better...best I can tell the contours of the '11 seats look the same as mine...but in 09 there was no leather.

FWIW- theyre fine in the comfort department. The 09s have the lumbar adjust as well.

Essentially- theyre the same cars. If you want/need leather, then the '11 SE is your choice.

Foley2010 04-14-2011 04:12 PM

One thing to consider, as a rule of thumb, is that if you get an 09 vs and new 11 is that the car payment will probably be the same, it's just you'll be paying on the 11 for an extra year.
That said I'd get the 11. Some Hyundai dealers will extend the Hyundai warranty if you buy new with them. Mine in Atlanta did, and they doubled it to 200k mi.

carolphoto 04-15-2011 07:58 AM

Big drawback Elantra Touring GLS: gas consumption
 
Hi,
With gas prices so high I would not buy an Elantra Touring again. I'm at 1900 miles (3000 km) on my 2011 model so not fully broken-in but my gas consumption (can't call it "fuel economy"!) is 18.8 mgp (or 12.5 liters per 100 km) for mostly city driving. A lot worse than the figure Hyundai gives for the car. (Note that they usually give only the highway driving figure in their ads.) Other than that I enjoy the many features of the car. It has rattles and squeaks at the back of the car but a part has been ordered to remedy that. Certainly a pleasure to drive but the fuel consumption is a killer.

NovaResource 04-15-2011 09:41 AM

You didn't say what year, model or transmission you have but the Touring is only rated at a best of 23 MPG (10.2 L/100k) in city driving. I'd suspect the fuel economy will increase as the engine gets fully broken in and the weather warms up. Winter fuel and cold temps lower fuel economy. Others here that have posted their fuel economy numbers claim in the mid 20's for combined city/highway driving with MPG numbers n the 30's for mostlt highway driving.

My opinion is your economy isn't that far off given the climate and driving conditions. You can't expect to get the advertised highway mileage if you do all city driving. You should have done better research before buying.

Omnitech 04-18-2011 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by carolphoto (Post 36954)
Hi,
With gas prices so high I would not buy an Elantra Touring again. I'm at 1900 miles (3000 km) on my 2011 model so not fully broken-in but my gas consumption (can't call it "fuel economy"!) is 18.8 mgp (or 12.5 liters per 100 km) for mostly city driving. A lot worse than the figure Hyundai gives for the car. (Note that they usually give only the highway driving figure in their ads.) Other than that I enjoy the many features of the car. It has rattles and squeaks at the back of the car but a part has been ordered to remedy that. Certainly a pleasure to drive but the fuel consumption is a killer.

I really didn't get good mileage until about 2000 miles, right now I'm averaging 29 mpg combined city/highway @ 4000 miles, almost as good as my Corolla got which was about 300 pounds lighter and had a smaller engine, so I'm impresssed as all hell with this car. City short trip driving always results in lower mileage, particularly in winter as the car never gets a chance to fully warm up enough to deliver good mileage. Also, a lot of people tend to let their cars sit and warm up before going anywhere which REALLY pulls down the gas mileage, and people also tend not to watch their tire pressures which tend to drop during cold weather and also results in poor mileage.

carolphoto 04-20-2011 04:27 PM

Thanks for the reassurances in your post that the mileage should improve with my car. Since mine (Elantra Touring GLS 2011 with Automatic transmission) uses twice as much gas as my previous car, an 11 year old Honda Civic (46 mpg for city driving), and consumes a lot more gas than Hyundai states on its website, I am trying to figure out if there is something wrong with this particular vehicle. (Hyundai's figures are 32.5 mpg for city driving and 43.5 for highway.) I was told they could not re-set the engine to improve the mileage. It coasts for three blocks at 30 mph without my foot on the gas so I thought that might be the problem. Anyway, I do hope it improves considerably as it gets broken in, as you say.

Omnitech 04-20-2011 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by carolphoto (Post 37053)
Thanks for the reassurances in your post that the mileage should improve with my car. Since mine (Elantra Touring GLS 2011 with Automatic transmission) uses twice as much gas as my previous car, an 11 year old Honda Civic (46 mpg for city driving), and consumes a lot more gas than Hyundai states on its website, I am trying to figure out if there is something wrong with this particular vehicle. (Hyundai's figures are 32.5 mpg for city driving and 43.5 for highway.) I was told they could not re-set the engine to improve the mileage. It coasts for three blocks at 30 mph without my foot on the gas so I thought that might be the problem. Anyway, I do hope it improves considerably as it gets broken in, as you say.

Those aren't the mileage figures for an Elantra Touring, not by a long shot...

bleedpinstripes 04-20-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by carolphoto (Post 37053)
Thanks for the reassurances in your post that the mileage should improve with my car. Since mine (Elantra Touring GLS 2011 with Automatic transmission) uses twice as much gas as my previous car, an 11 year old Honda Civic (46 mpg for city driving), and consumes a lot more gas than Hyundai states on its website, I am trying to figure out if there is something wrong with this particular vehicle. (Hyundai's figures are 32.5 mpg for city driving and 43.5 for highway.) I was told they could not re-set the engine to improve the mileage. It coasts for three blocks at 30 mph without my foot on the gas so I thought that might be the problem. Anyway, I do hope it improves considerably as it gets broken in, as you say.

The problem is you are comparing it to a magic car.

The new civic hybrid doesn't even get 46 mpg on the highway.

blh7068 04-21-2011 06:48 AM

Carol-

I dont know where you arrived at your mileage estimates, but thats not for an ET.
23/30 is what my 09 automatic is estimated at. 2010 and 11 models havent changed.

FWIW- Mine gets the advertised mileage.

carolphoto 04-21-2011 07:28 AM

2.0L 4-speed Automatic Transmission with Overdrive - City8.72.0L 4-speed Automatic Transmission with Overdrive - Highway6.5


Thanks for your posts, everyone. I've just checked those figures again. I am using Hyundai Canada's website Hyundai Elantra Specifications | Elantra Specs: Interior, Steering & Fog Light touring, and the figures are 8.7 liters per 100 km for city driving and 6.5 liters per 100 km for highway. I have used a different conversion site L/100 km to MPG or MPG to L/100 km Fuel / Gas Efficiency / Consumption Conversion Chart / Table (Miles per US gallon to liters per 100 kilometers ) and now I get 27 mpg for city driving and 36.19 for highway. I have just now looked at the USA Hyundai website at Hyundai Motors Elantra Touring Specification and you are correct. The numbers are indeed less: 23 mpg for city and 30 for highway. This is very strange. If cold weather is a factor then, if there is any difference, it should take more gas to drive the same car in Canada than in most parts of the US.

bleedpinstripes 04-21-2011 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by carolphoto (Post 37063)
2.0L 4-speed Automatic Transmission with Overdrive - City8.72.0L 4-speed Automatic Transmission with Overdrive - Highway6.5


Thanks for your posts, everyone. I've just checked those figures again. I am using Hyundai Canada's website Hyundai Elantra Specifications | Elantra Specs: Interior, Steering & Fog Light touring, and the figures are 8.7 liters per 100 km for city driving and 6.5 liters per 100 km for highway. I have used a different conversion site L/100 km to MPG or MPG to L/100 km Fuel / Gas Efficiency / Consumption Conversion Chart / Table (Miles per US gallon to liters per 100 kilometers ) and now I get 27 mpg for city driving and 36.19 for highway. I have just now looked at the USA Hyundai website at Hyundai Motors Elantra Touring Specification and you are correct. The numbers are indeed less: 23 mpg for city and 30 for highway. This is very strange. If cold weather is a factor then, if there is any difference, it should take more gas to drive the same car in Canada than in most parts of the US.

Correct link for the touring is actually:

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/s...ntra%20touring

Although your numbers posted are still correct.

Unfortunately the numbers generated by Transport Canada are a huge pipe dream. From the Transport Canada Website:


Testing and calculation differences
Effective for the 2008 model year, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has added three additional test cycles to its original two cycles of city and highway testing (See 5-cycle testing). As such, their fuel economy calculations are different in order to incorporate the results of the additional tests. These changes have resulted in differences between the Canadian and U.S. (EPA) numbers. Also note that in Canada, we talk about "fuel consumption" while in the U.S., they refer to "fuel economy".

Correction and adjustment factors
In addition to the testing and calculations differences between Canada and the U.S., the correction and adjustment factors also differ. For example, the U.S. EPA applies a correction factor of 22% to their highway fuel economy test estimates to better approximate real-life driving conditions, whereas in Canada, a 15% correction factor is used.

Therefore, both the U.S. EPA fuel economy ratings and the fuel consumption ratings in the Canadian Fuel Consumption Guide can be considered "correct" as they pertain to vehicles in their respective countries. However, the inherent differences do not allow cross-border comparisons. The ratings are only useful when comparing the fuel efficiency of various vehicles within the country in which you reside.
They are essentially saying that while the EPA tries to approximate real life driving conditions, they are content with just making things up.

qingww 02-23-2012 02:27 AM

so the after sale service is indeed very important , as 4 me , i would rather to buy the expensive that have good after sale service

billybobzia 03-01-2012 07:41 PM

I love mine so far.. bought in September (2012) and now have 8200 miles.. I got the 5 speed and the worst mpg I have gotten has been 27 mpg (cold and mostly city).. most of my driving is mixed, maybe 60/40 (city/hwy) and most fill ups I average right around 30 mpg. On a 350 mile trip the most I have gotten was 37 mpg and that is in the mountains of Colorado. The car has plenty of power going over mountain passes (pleasantly surprised).. Overall, I am very happy with the fuel economy as I expected worse..

To the guy that got 18 ish, there is something really wrong with your car I think..


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