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NovaResource 07-22-2008 03:50 PM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 

ORIGINAL: SHOZ

I know that. But if the degree of error is known then the actual mileage can be extrapolated.
Easy, I was just making sure you knew.



ORIGINAL: SHOZ

Whast's the 14" tire width stock?
Width? I thought you wanted TALLER tires, not wider.

The factory 14" tires are 175/70-14. That tire has a 602 mm (23.7") diameter.

How much taller are you going to go? 2%, 5%, 10%. I highly doubt the small tire height increase that will fit will have a large difference in fuel economy.

SHOZ 07-23-2008 01:40 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
Well if I can fit a 16x7" rim on the car I would go to a 205/50/16.

I really am not a nitwit.

NovaResource 07-23-2008 07:23 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 

ORIGINAL: SHOZ

Well if I can fit a 16x7" rim on the car I would go to a 205/50/16.

I really am not a nitwit.
The stock 175/70-14 tire has a 602 mm (23.7") diameter.
A 205/50-16 tire has a 612 mm (24.1") diameter.

That's a difference of 10mm (less than 1/2") or 1.7%. You think a 1.7% tire height increase will help fuel economy?

Let's see:
- with the factory tires in 5th gear, at 60-mph the engine was spinning at 2889 rpm
- with 205/50-16 tires in 5th gear, at 60-mph the engine will be spinning at 2841 rpm

That's an RPM drop of 48 rpm. Do you really think a 48-rpm drop is going to save fuel? Even if it did, you will lose any gain because you are now running a tire that is 1.2" wider and has more rolling resistance.

SHOZ 07-23-2008 09:40 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
So just how much more is the rolling resistance all knowing one? A shorter sidewall hass less flex and you don't even know what kind of tire I'm planning on using.....

What are the OEM wheel widths and offset?

NovaResource 07-23-2008 10:21 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
Generally, the taller and narrower the tire, the less rolling resistance it has. As the tire gets shorter and/or wider, the rolling resistance goes up. Again, those are general statement. There are always exceptions. Plus, you have the factor in the added weight of a larger wheel and tire.

There are two 14" steel wheels listed for the 2008 Accent:
- 14 x 5.5 with an offset of 46mm
- 14 x 5 with an offset of 39mm

I believe the first wheel (the wider one) comes with a 185/65-14 tire while the second wheel comes with the 175/70-14 tire. You will have to physically check your tires to see which you have.

litesong 07-24-2008 02:46 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 

SHOZThe last Festiva was in 1993 (it was called the Aspire after that). It had a curb weight of 1797-lbs and a 63-hp 1.3L engine rated at 35/42 mpg (source).

The 2008 Accent has a curb weight of 2467-lbs and a 110-hp 1.6L engine rated at 27/32-mpg (source).

The Accent is 670-lbs heavier than the Festiva. That's like driving your Festivia around with three extra 220-lbs guys. I'll bet you wouldn't get 45-mpg in your Festiva with all that extra weight. Plus, the Festiva had a better fuel economy rating to begin with.


I found this post v. interesting since I havea 1988 Ford Festiva & my wife has a 2008 Hyundai Accent. Here are some real-world comparisons.

For decades my Festiva has been the best MPG car I ever had & I still drive it. It averaged 45MPG for a decade. No, it didn't hit 45MPG loaded down with cool weather clothing, camping, camera, binocular & spotting scope optics & other gearfor a month ofadventuroustraveling. Itturned in 53+MPG on a thousand mile leg & 47 MPG overall which included climbing 12,000 foot mountain passes. Not too bad for an EPA rated 42MPG highway.

As for my wife's Accent, she averaged 32+MPG thru a long cold winter & stop & go highway commuter traffic. I thot Accent had more to give & my wife let me loose with Accentfor 3 daytrips over 1400, 3000, 4000, & 5500 foot mountain passes. Accent got 41.5, 42.6, & 45.2 MPG. Not too bad for an EPA rated 32MPG highway.

All in all, I love my Festiva & I suddenly love the Hyundai Accent!

NovaResource 07-24-2008 07:13 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
^^^ There is a lot of talk about how great fuel economy cars have now but in reality, they could be MUCH better if the cars were lighter. Your Festiva is a great example of cars that got equal or better mileage than a Hybrid Prius. Weight is the key. Today cars have multiple airbags, ABS brakes, traction control, A/C, etc.All those things add weight. Imagine the mileage the Accent could get if it was 700-lbs lighter (the same weight as the Festiva).

litesong 07-25-2008 10:50 PM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
Threereasons I got such good Accent MPGis thatour Accent doesn't have ABS, traction control or a/c. A fourth reason is the Accent has a much lower coefficient of drag than the Festiva(0.31 vs. 0.37). Afifth reason is the technology is 20 years newer.

SHOZ 09-07-2008 09:48 PM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 

ORIGINAL: litesong

Threereasons I got such good Accent MPGis thatour Accent doesn't have ABS, traction control or a/c. A fourth reason is the Accent has a much lower coefficient of drag than the Festiva(0.31 vs. 0.37). Afifth reason is the technology is 20 years newer.
Does your car have an ATX or MTX tranny?

NovaResource 09-08-2008 07:29 AM

RE: 2008 Hyundai Accent GS (3dr)
 
He said in a previous post that it's a manual:

https://www.hyundaiforum.com/fb.asp?m=15233


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