I800 Won't Start
Hi all,
Hoping someone can help — I’ve been chasing a non-start issue on my Hyundai (2.5 CRDi) and I’m at the point where I’d really value some experienced input.
Hoping someone can help — I’ve been chasing a non-start issue on my Hyundai (2.5 CRDi) and I’m at the point where I’d really value some experienced input.
Background / History
- Engine rebuilt Aug 2023 (head skim + rebore after blown head gasket)
- Ran well initially
- Mid-2024 started to get:
- occasional loss of power
- intermittent smoke
- would recover and drive normally
- Nov 2024 (after bodywork repair):
- car wouldn’t start properly
- initially assumed flat battery
- AA attended:
- got it to fire briefly on easy start
- only after tapping around EGR/throttle area
Known issue found
- Found a bad earth (painted over after body repair)
- Cleaned it back to metal
- car started first time
- ran fine for ~20 minutes
Failure event
- Drove approx 20 metres
- As gearbox changed into 2nd → engine cut out
- Since then → won’t start
Work carried out since
- Replaced cam sensor + wiring previously
- Replaced crank sensor
- Replaced engine coolant temperature sensor (was reading ~600°C when cold)
- Battery fully charged / jump support used
- Fuel system primed and bled (manual primer goes rock hard and holds)
Live data while cranking
- ~190–204 rpm cranking
Rail pressure behaviour varies:
Sometimes:- ~3000–4400 psi
- engine splutters / shudders
- smells like fuel (so injection happening)
- very low pressure (~50–300 psi)
- no attempt to fire
Intake / EGR observations
- Located throttle body (flap confirmed open)
- Located EGR valve
- EGR feeds directly into intake near throttle body
- Some oil/carbon present in intake (not excessive)
EGR test
- Unplugged EGR:
- rail pressure dropped to ~100 psi
- no attempt to fire
- Plugged back in:
- pressure returned (~2000–4000 psi)
- engine splutters again
Fault codes
- P0405 – EGR sensor low
- P0489 – EGR control circuit low
- P0532 – A/C pressure sensor low
Additional note
- Previously had P0685 (ECM/PCM relay circuit)
- Removed and re-seated relays in fuse box
- Code has not returned since
Current symptoms
- Cranks strongly (~200 rpm)
- When pressure builds:
- splutters / shakes / almost fires
- Will not start or run
- No sustained combustion
Current thinking
Trying to determine if this is one issue or two:Possibility 1:
- EGR stuck open / leaking
- would explain splutter / no combustion
- matches earlier “tap and it fired” behaviour
Possibility 2:
- Fuel pressure instability
- inconsistent rail pressure between cranks
- possible air in system or pressure bleeding off
Possibility 3:
- Electrical / wiring interaction
- EGR unplugging affects rail pressure behaviour
Next planned step
- Try to physically blank the EGR feed pipe (access is awkward on this layout)
- Continue working on stabilising fuel pressure
Questions
- Could a stuck-open EGR realistically cause a complete non-start like this?
- Has anyone seen EGR faults affect rail pressure behaviour?
- Does the fluctuating rail pressure point more toward air in system vs regulator issue?
- Anything obvious I’m missing before going down timing/compression route?
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